Ancestry of Bessie McKenzie Haggart, daughter of Matthew Haggart, an engine fitter, and Margaret Wylie Halbert

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First Generation

Matthew Haggart and Margaret Wylie Halbert (parents of Bessie McKenzie Haggart born on 23 Oct 1888 at 58 Fleming Street, Glasgow)

Matthew Haggart and Margaret Wylie Halbert were married on 6 Jun 1883 in Rothesay, Bute. Matthew and Margaret had the following children: 

For the 1891 census Matthew, an engine fitter, and his wife were living with Matthew's recently widowed father, John Haggart, in Winchel Place, Stirling.

1891 Census (6 April) Stirling- 490 Book 16 Page 1

Winchel Place, Stirling

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Haggart Head 71 House Joiner Retired on Private Means Abbotshall, Fife
Matthew Haggart Son 41 Engine Fitter Greenock, Renfrewshire
Margaret Haggart Daughter in Law 33 Engine Fitter's Wife Ardrossan, Ayrshire
John Haggart Grandson 6 Engineer Fitter Apprentice Govan, Lanarkshire
Thomas Haggart Grandson 4 Machinist Assistant Govan, Lanarkshire
Bessie Haggart Granddaughter 2 Scholar Govan, Lanarkshire

 

For the 1901 census Margaret Haggart was recorded at the family home in Gordon Street, Govan, with her four children but Matthew, her husband, is absent.

 

1901 Census (1 April) Govan Craigton- 646/02 Folio 53 Page 11

4 Gordon Street, Craigton, Govan, Glasgow

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

Margaret Haggart  Head - Wife 44     Ardrossan, Ayrshire
John Haggart Son 16 Engineer Fitter Apprentice Govan, Lanarkshire
Thomas Haggart Son 14 Machinist Assistant Govan, Lanarkshire
Bessie Haggart Daughter 12 Scholar Govan, Lanarkshire
Matthew Haggart Son 6 Scholar Govan, Lanarkshire

 

Matthew missing from the family home was recorded as a patient in Paisley (Infirmary?)

 

1901 Census (1 April) Paisley Abbey - 573 Folio 110 Page 20

Paisley, Renfrewshire

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

Matthew Haggart Head 50 Engineer Fiiter Greenock, Renfrewshire

For the 1911 census Matthew and Margaret along with three of their four children, including Bessie (Elizabeth), were living at 7 Gordon Street, Craigton, Glasgow.

1911 Census (2 April) Govan Craigton- 646/02 Book 32 Page 17

7 Gordon Street, Craigton, Govan, Glasgow (4 Rooms with 1 or more windows)

Name

Relationship

Age      

Duration of

Marriage

No of

Children Born

No of Children

Surviving

Occupation

Where Born

Matthew Haggart Head 60       Engineer - Engineer & Pumps - Worker Greenock, Renfrewshire
Margaret Haggart Wife 56 27 4 4   Ardrossan, Ayrshire
John Haggart Son 26       Engineer  - Marine Engineer - Worker Govan, Lanarkshire
Matthew M. Haggart Son 16       School Govan, Lanarkshire
Elizabeth Haggart Daughter 22       Clerkess - Wholesale Merchant - Worker Govan, Lanarkshire

Matthew Haggart died on 12 Mar 1919 at 7 Gordon Street, Craigton, Govan, Lanarkshire. His death certificate identified him as an Engine Fitter (Journeyman), aged 69, married to Margaret Halbert.. His parents were identified as John Haggart, a Joiner, and Elizabeth Haggart , maiden surname McKenzie, both recorded as deceased. The informant was John Haggart, son .

Margaret Haggart, nee Halbert, died on 16 Jan 1926 at 7 Gordon Street, Craigton, Govan, Lanarkshire. Her death certificate identified her as aged 70, the widow of Matthew Mackie Haggart, Engine Fitter. Her parents were identified as John Halbert, a Mason, and Helen Halbert, maiden surname Bell, both recorded as deceased. The informant was John Haggart, son.

Second Generation

John Haggart and Elizabeth MacKenzie (parents of Matthew Haggart born circa 1850 in Greenock, Renfrewshire.)

John Haggart and Elizabeth MacKenzie were married on 4 Aug 1844 in Paisley Middle, Renfrewshire. John and Elizabeth had the following know children:

For the census of 1851 John and his family were living at 17 Old Smithhills, Abbey, Paisley, with John working as a Joiner. "Next door" to John Haggart and his family at 18 Old Smithhills was a Margaret Brown a Spirit Retailer, with a Helen Bell recorded as a servant in her household. This Helen was the future mother in law of the young Matthew Haggart, aged 1 in the census, who was to marry Helen's daughter, Margaret Wylie Halbert.

 

1851 Census (31 March) Abbey Paisley - 559 Book 2, Page 17 

17 Old Smithhills, Abbey, Paisley

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Hagart Head 30 Joiner Kirkcaldy, Fife
Elizabeth Hagart Wife 30   Paisley, Renfrewshire
James Hagart Son 6   Paisley, Renfrewshire
John Hagart Son 4   Paisley, Renfrewshire
Mathew Hagart Son 1   Greenock, Renfrewshire
Peter Shaw Head 60 Dyer's Labourer Ireland
Agnes Shaw Wife 58   Paisley, Renfrewshire
Margret Shaw Daughter 17   Glasgow, Lanarkshire
James Shaw Grandson 5 Scholar at Home Paisley, Renfrewshire
18 Old Smithhills, Abbey, Paisley
Margret  Brown Head 42 Spirit Retailer Paisley, Renfrewshire
William Brown Son 10 Scholar Paisley, Renfrewshire
David Brown Son 7 Scholar Paisley, Renfrewshire
Helen Bell Servant 21 House Servant West Kilbride, Ayrshire

 

For the 1861 census John and Elizabeth had moved to Stirling, and were recorded living in Cowan Street.

 

1861 Census (8 April) Stirling - 490 Book 13, Page 4 

Cowan Street, Stirlingy

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Haggart Head 40 Joiner Abbotshall, Fife
Elizabeth Haggart Wife 40   Paisley, Renfrewshire
James Haggart Son 15    Paisley, Renfrewshire
John Haggart Son 14 Engine Fitter Apprentice Paisley, Renfrewshire
Matthew Haggart Son 11 Scholar Greenock, Renfrewshire

 

For the census of 1871 John and his wife were still in Stirling, but now living in Bruce Street. Only their youngest son Matthew appears to still be living with them, but they also have a servant, Ann Fraser recorded in the household.

 

1871 Census (3 April) Stirling - 490 Book 13, Page 38 

1 Union Street, Stirling

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Haggart Head 51 Railway Joiner Abbotshall, Fife
Elizabeth Haggart Wife 50 Joiner's Wife Paisley, Renfrewshire
Matthew Haggart Son 21 Reaping Machine Fitter Greenock, Renfrewshire
Ann Fraser Servant 16 General Domestic Servant St. Ninians, Stirlingshire

 

For the census of 1881 John and his wife were again recorded in Stirling, but again at a different address, 19 Bruce Street. All the children have flown the nest but again they have a servant, this time a Barbara Wilson recorded in their household.

 

1881 Census (4 April) Stirling - 490 Book 16, Page 21

19 Bruce Street, Stirling

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Haggart Head 61 Joiner Kirkcaldy, Fife
Elizabeth Haggart Wife 60   Paisley, Renfrewshire
Barbara Wilson Servant 16 General Domestic Servant Larbert, Stirlingshire

 

Their youngest son Matthew would seem to have been a patient a Gartnavel Hospital at the time of the 1881 census.

 

1881 Census (4 April) Govan - 646-2 Book 37, Page 19

"Glasgow Royal Hospital" Gartnavel, Govan, Lanarkshire

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

Matthew Haggart Patient 31 Engineer Greenock, Renfrewshire

Elizabeth Haggart, nee McKenzie died on 1 Dec 1890 at 2 Winchel Place, Stirling. Her death certificate identified her as aged 67 and married to John Haggart, Joiner (Journeyman). Her parents were identified as John McKenzie, a handloom weaver, and Margaret McKenzie, formerly Weir, maiden surname Campbell, both recorded as deceased. The informant was John Haggart, widower, her husband. 

For the census of 1891 the recently widowed John was recorded at Winchel Place, with his married son, Matthew and his wife and family recorded in his household.

1891 Census (6 April) Stirling- 490 Book 16 Page 1

Winchel Place, Stirling

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Haggart Head 71 House Joiner Retired on Private Means Abbotshall, Fife
Matthew Haggart Son 41 Engine Fitter Greenock, Renfrewshire
Margaret Haggart Daughter in Law 33 Engine Fitter's Wife Ardrossan, Ayrshire
John Haggart Grandson 6 Engineer Fitter Apprentice Govan, Lanarkshire
Thomas Haggart Grandson 4 Machinist Assistant Govan, Lanarkshire
Bessie Haggart Granddaughter 12 Scholar Govan, Lanarkshire

John Haggart died on 6 Feb 1895 at 4 Gordon Terrace, Craigton Road, Govan, Lanarkshire, the home of his son Matthew. His death certificate identified him as formerly a Joiner (Foreman), aged 75, widower of Elizabeth McKenzie.. His parents were identified as James Haggart, a Farm Overseer, and Isabella Haggart , maiden surname Mackie, both recorded as deceased. The informant was Matthew Haggart, son. There is a Will and Inventory listed for John Haggart in the Wills and Testaments on the Scotlandspeople website. (1895 - Will = Glasgow Sheriff Court Wills SC36/51/111 & Inventory = Glasgow Sheriff Court Inventories SC36/48/149)

John Halbert and Helen Bell (parents of Margaret Wylie Halbert born on 27 November 1855, Ardrossan, Ayrshire

John Halbert and Helen Bell were married 31 May 1852, Abbey, Paisley, Renfrewshire. John and Helen had the following known children:

For the census of 1861 John and his family were recorded living in Glasgow Street, Ardrossan, with John recorded as a Stone Mason.

1861 Census (8 April) New Ardrossan - 576 Book 2, Page 4

Glasgow Street, Ardrossan, Ayrshire

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Halbert Head 32 Stone Mason West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Helen Halbert Wife 32   West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Marrion Halbert Daughter 7 Scholar Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Margaret Halbert Daughter 5 Scholar Ardrossan, Ayrshire
Jane Halbert Daughter 3    Ardrossan, Ayrshire
Isabella Halbert Daughter 1    Ardrossan, Ayrshire

 

For the census of 1871 John and his family had moved to the island of Bute and were recorded as living in John Street, Rothesay. From the birthplaces of the children it would seem the move to Bute happened about 1863-1866.

 

1871 Census (3 April) Rothesay - 558 Book 13, Page 8

2 John Street, Rothesay, Bute

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Halbert Head 42 Mason West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Helen Halbert Wife 42   West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Isabella Halbert Daughter 11 Scholar  Ardrossan, Ayrshire
Thomas Halbert Son 8 Scholar Ardrossan, Ayrshire
Joan Halbert Daughter 4   Rothesay, Bute
John Halbert Son 2   Rothesay, Bute

For the census of 1881 John, Helen and three of their children were living at 4 Hillhouse Road, Rothesay, Bute.

1881 Census (4 April) Rothesay - 558 Book 6, Page 12

4 Hillhouse Road, Rothesay, Bute

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Halbert Head 52 Mason Kilbride, Ayrshire
Ellen Halbert Wife 52   Kilbride, Ayrshire
Isabella Halbert Daughter 21 Druggists Assistant Ardrossan, Ayrshire
Joan Halbert Daughter 14 Scholar Rothesay, Bute
John Halbert Son 12 Scholar Rothesay, Bute

 

Their daughter Margaret was working as a General Domestic servant in Miller Road, 1 Garden Park, Ayr

 

1881 Census (4 April) Ayr - 578 Book 12, Page 32

Miller Road 1 Garden Park, Ayr

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

Isabella MacNab Head 46 Anuitant Stonehaven, Aberdeen
Willm. MacNab Son 14 Scholar Rothesay, Bute
Margaret Halbert Servant 25 General Domestic Servant Ardrossan, Ayrshire

John Halbert died on 18 Jul 1904 at 17 Bishop Street, Rothesay, Bute. His death certificate identified him as a Mason (Journeyman), aged 73, married to Helen Bell.. His parents were identified as John Halbert, occupation not stated, and Marion Halbert, maiden surname McCrindle, both recorded as deceased. The informant was Isabella Halbert, daughter. Although he died intestate there is a listing for John Halbert in the Wills and Testaments on the Scotlandspeople website. (1904 - Rothesay Sheriff Court SC8/35/32)

Helen Halbert died on 1 Jan 1911 at 17 Bishop Street, Rothesay, Bute. Her death certificate identified her as aged 82, the widow of John Haggart, Mason (Journeyman). Her parents were identified as John Bell, a carrier and contractor, and Helen Bell, maiden surname Robertson, both recorded as deceased. The informant was John Halbert, son.

Third Generation

James Haggart and Isobel Mckay (Mackie) (parents of John Haggart born on 19 December 1818 in Abbotshall. Fife)

James Haggart and Isobel Mckay (or Mackie) were married 13 November 1807 in Kinghorn, Fife. James and Isobel had the following known children:

For the 1841 census James and his wife along with their youngest daughter Janet were recorded at Thornton, Markinch, Fife.

1841 Census (7 June) Markinch - 447 Book 11, Page 13 

Thornton, Markinch, Fife

Name

Age      

Occupation

Born in County

James Haggart 55 Agricultural labourer Yes
Isabella Haggart 55   Yes
Janet Haggart 15   Yes

 

Their son John was in Glasgow plying his trade as a Joiner.

 

1841 Census (7 June) Barony - 622 Book 18, Page 14 

Millers Court, Barony, Lanarkshire

Name

Age      

Occupation

Born in County

Alexander Cunningham 25 Pattern Maker No
Agnes Cunningham 20   No
Jane Cunningham 4   Yes
Agnes Cunningham 3 months   Yes
Robert Andrew 25 House Carpenter No
John Haggart 25 House Carpenter Journeyman No

As no obvious record of either James or Isabella was been found in the 1851 census it is probable that both died prior to that date and prior to the start of Statutory birth, marriage and death recording.

From the census records James Haggart and Isobel Mckay would seem to have been born circa 1785 in Fife. 

There is a record of a James Haggart baptised 8 December 1783, Auchtertool, Fife, the son of James Haggart and Henny (Henrietta) Miller, who would fit well as being one and the same as the James Haggart, who married Isobel Mackie. This is supported by the fact that James and Isabel's first son, traditionally named for the paternal grandfather, was named James. and their second daughter, traditionally named for the paternal grandmother was named Hariot, which I believe is a diminutive \ alternative for Henrietta. However this is speculative. James Haggart and Henreta Miller were married on 26 August 1779, Auchtertool, Fife 

There is a record of an Isabel Mackie, born 23 March 1784 and baptised 28 March 1784, Inverkeithing, Fife, daughter of Matthew Mackie and Isabel Shand, who would fit well as being one and the same as Isabel Mackay who married James Haggart. This is supported by the fact that James and Isabel's first daughter, traditionally named for the maternal grandmother, was named Isabel. and James and Isabel's second son, traditionally named for the maternal grandfather is named Matthew. However this is speculative. Matthew Mackie and Isabel Shand were married on 21 June 1783, Auchtertool, Fife

John McKenzie and Margaret Campbell (parents of Elizabeth McKenzie was born circa 1821 in Paisley, Renfrewshire) 

John McKenzie and Margaret McKenzie were identified as the parents of Elizabeth McKenzie on her death certificate viz. Parents - John McKenzie and Margaret McKenzie, previously Weir, maiden name Campbell. The fact that her mother was recorded as "previously Weir" would also suggest that Margaret had been married previously to a Mr. Weir. No obvious record of the birth of Elizabeth birth has been found. There are a couple of marriages of a Margaret Campbell to a Weir that might fit this earlier marriage - 

I would be inclined to prefer the earlier marriage which maintains the district of Middle Church, Paisley, but both are speculative. 

There is a record of a Margaret Campbell marrying a John Mckinzie on 5 July 1807, Middle Church, Paisley which would fit as her parents marriage but no additional information was recorded to help confirm this one way or the other.

There is a record of a Margaret McKenzie aged 56, along with what one would assume are her daughter's, Elizabeth aged 20 and Agnes aged 18, at 26 Back Sneddon, Paisley for the 1841 census.  Margaret is recorded as born outside the county, and the daughters as born in the county (Renfrewshire). This would fit with this being Margaret McKenzie, nee Campbell, widow of John McKenzie.

1841 Census (7 June) Paisley Middle - 573 Book 33, Page 18 

26 Back Sneddon, Paisley Middle, Renfrewshire

Name

Age      

Occupation

Born in County

Margret McKinzie 56 Winder No
Elizabeth McKinzie 20 Sewer Yes
Agness McKinzie 18 Sewer Yes

As the household in the census record of what I believe to be Elizabeth McKenzie and her mother Margaret does not include a John McKenzie of a similar age to Margaret and no obvious other record of John McKenzie has been found in either the 1841 or the 1851 census it is likely that he died prior to that 1841 and therefore prior to the start of Statutory birth, marriage and death recording.

There is also a record of a Margreat Mckinzie, a widow, aged 65, a Warfe Winder born in Lochgoil, Dumbartonshire (should be Argyllshire) in the 1851 census which I believe is one and the same as the Margaret McKinzie in the 1841 census. Name, age and occupation are match as near as makes no difference and the place of birth matches with the "Outside the county" of the 1841 census.

1851 Census (31 March) Paisley Middle - 573 Book 57, Page 27 

Paisley Middle, Renfrewshire

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

Margreat McKinzie Head - Widow 65 Warpe Winder Lochgoil, Dumbartonshire
Alexander Barbour Lodger 46 Sclatter (slater) Stevenston, Renfrewshire
William Rodger Lodger 21 Sclatter (slater) Stevenston, Renfrewshire

There is a Margaret McKenzie, nee Campbell, who died aged 73 in 1858 in Paisley who I suspect is one and the same as Margaret McKenzie, nee Campbell, mother of Elizabeth. This Margaret died on 14 October 1858, in Paisley Poorhouse, and was buried in the graveyard of Paisley Gaelic Churchyard.. The death certificate recorded her as a widow, the daughter of Archibald Campbell and Catherine McNaught, and the informant was William McKenzie, the governor of the Poorhouse. (I suspect the surname is a co-incidence and there was no family connection.) Unfortunately the record of the death only records this Margaret as a widow and does not give her husbands name, therefore the identification is unproven. However even the fact  that her husbands name was not known to the informant would fit with Elizabeth's mother who I believe had been widowed since at least 1841, 17 years previously. 

There is no obvious record of a birth of a Margaret Campbell to a Archibald Campbell and Catherine McNaught around the 1785 date. However there is a Margaret baptised 2 July 1781 Lochgoilhead and Kilmorich, Argyllshire, daughter of Archibald Campbell and Katharine Mckoel which is probably the best outside contender.

John Halbert and Marion McCrindle (Parents of John Halbert born 17 February 1826, West Kilbride, Ayrshire)

No obvious record of the marriage of John Halbert and Marion McCrindle has been found. John and Marion had the following known children:

For the census of 1841 John, Marion and their five children were recorded at King's Court. Wets Kilbride, Ayrshire.

1841 Census (7 June) West Kilbride - 620 Book 4, Page 19 

King's Court, West Kilbride, Ayrshire

Name

Age      

Occupation

Born in County

John Halbert 30 Labourer Yes
Marrion Halbert 30   Yes
John Halbert 12 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Apprentice Yes
Elisabeth Halbert 10   Yes
Thomas Halbert 7   Yes
James Halbert 5   Yes
Jean Halbert 2   Yes

For the census of 1851 John, Marion and six of their children were recorded at King's Close. West Kilbride, Ayrshire. I suspect King's Court and King's Close may well be one and the same place.

1851 Census (31 March) West Kilbride - 620 Book 5, Page 4 

King's Close, West Kilbride, Ayrshire

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Halbert Head 48 Farm Labourer Kirkmichael, Ayrshire
Marion Halbert Wife 46   Kirkoswald, Ayrshire
John Halbert Son 22 Mason & Weaver Cotton West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Thomas Halbert Son 18 Baker Journeyman West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Jane Halbert Daughter 12 Weaver's Assistant West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Janet Halbert Daughter 9 Scholar West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Marion Halbert Daughter 6 Scholar West Kilbride, Ayrshire
David Halbert Son 3   West Kilbride, Ayrshir

For the census of 1861 John and, Marion were again recorded at King's Close. West Kilbride, Ayrshire, but by this date none of their children were recorded with them.

1861 Census (8 April) West Kilbride - 620 Book 4, Page 16 

King's Close, West Kilbride, Ayrshire

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

John Halbert Head 59 Labourer Kirkmichael, Ayrshire
Marion Halbert Wife 57 Labourer's Wife Kirkoswald, Ayrshire

John Halbert died on 18 Jan 1862 in West Kilbride, Ayrshire. His death certificate identified him as a Labourer, aged 73, married to Marion McRonald. His parents were identified as John Halbert, Labourer, and Elizabeth Halbert, maiden surname McKimming, both recorded as deceased. The informant was John Halbert, son who was not present. I believe the recording the surname of his wife as McRonald is erroneous. There is a record of a John Halbert born 9 March 1803 and baptised 10 March 1803 in Kirkmichael, Ayrshire with the fathers name given as John Halbert but with no mother's name recorded. No record of the marriage of a John Halbert and Elizabeth McKimming has been identified.

For the census of 1871 his widow Marion was recorded as living at 16 Main Street, West Kilbride. Also included in the household is a Marion Halbert, granddaughter, aged 9. I suspect this Marion was the daughter of Marion's daughter Jean, as there is a record of a Marion born to a Jean Halbert on 25 July 1861 in West Kilbride, Ayrshire - no father's name given.

1871 Census (3 April) West Kilbride - 620 Book 4, Page 16 

16 Main Street, West Kilbride, Ayrshire

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

Marion Halbert Head - Widow 65 Washerwoman Kirkoswald, Ayrshire
Marion Halbert Granddaughter 9 Scholar West Kilbride, Ayrshire

Marion Halbert died on 8 Jan 1876 at Main Street, West Kilbride Ayrshire. Her death certificate identified as her aged 70, the widow of John Halbert, a Quarryman. The informant was her son, David Halbert, who who seems to have had little idea as to the names of his mother's parents. His best guess at his mother's maiden surname was McCrinneil, with no idea as to her parents forenames or  her mother's maiden name. (ERGO - This death is indexed with a maiden name McCrinneil).  There is however a Marion McCrindle recorded as born 2 February 1802 and baptised 4 February 1802, in Kirkoswald, Ayrshire to a John McCrindle and Elizabeth Cathcart, which would fit as being one and the same as the Marion McCrindle who married John Halbert.

John Bell and Helen Robertson (parents of Helen Bell born 10 May 1828, West Kilbride, Ayrshire)

John Bell and Helen Robertson were married 23 Jan 1811 in West Kilbride, Ayrshire. John and Helen had the following identified children:

For the census of 1841 Helen Bell was recorded along with her children in West Kilbride, Ayrshire. Her husband is not recorded in this census and there is no obvious record of him elsewhere. One would assume this signifies that Helen was widowed. As there is a child in the 1841 census aged 7 one would assume that her husband John had died sometime between 1833 and 1841. 

1841 Census (7 June) West Kilbride - 620 Book 4, Page 2 

West Kilbride, Ayrshire

Name

Age      

Occupation

Born in County

Hellen Bell 47   Yes
Mathew Bell 25 Cotton Hand Loom Weaver Yes
Jannet Bell 15   Yes
Hellen Bell 13   Yes
James Bell 10   Yes
Jean Bell 7   Yes
Jannet Sharp 4   No

 

For the census of 1851 Helen was still resident in West Kilbride with only her eldest son Matthew still recorded in the household with her. The fact that her husband has passed away by this date at least is confirmed by her status as Widow.

 

1851 Census (31 March) West Kilbride - 620 Book 4, Page 6 

Damhy Row, West Kilbride, Ayrshire

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

Helen Bell Head - Widow 57 Housekeeper West Kilbride, Ayrshire
Mathew Bell Son 39 Carter West Kilbride, Ayrshire

 

As previously mentioned her daughter was recorded as a "House Servant" in the household of a Margaret Brown a Spirit Retailer, at 18 Old Smithhills in Paisley, Renfrewshire.

 

1851 Census (31 March) Abbey Paisley - 559 Book 2, Page 17 

18 Old Smithhills, Abbey, Paisley

Name

Relationship

Age      

Occupation

Where Born

Margret Brown Head 42 Spirit Retailer Paisley, Renfrewshire
William Brown Son 10 Scholar Paisley, Renfrewshire
David Brown Son 7 Scholar  Paisley, Renfrewshire
Helen Bell Servant 21 House Servant West Kilbride, Ayrshire

As Helen is on her own for the 1841 and 1851 censuses and recorded as a widow for the 1851 census, as already stated, it is likely that John Bell, her husband, died prior to 1841. He was certainly deceased by 1851 prior to the start of Statutory birth, marriage and death recording. With a common surname like Bell and with no age or place of birth to go by identification of his parentage is unlikely at this moment in time.

Helen Bell, nee Robertson, died on 1 Jul 1861 in West Kilbride, Ayrshire. Her death certificate identified her as aged 67, a widow but with no husband's name given. Her parents were identified as George Robertson, a Sailor, and Isabella Robertson, maiden surname Raeside, both recorded as deceased. The informant was Matthew Bell, son. No birth of a Helen Robertson circa 1793 in West Kilbride, Ayrshire, to a George Robertson and Isabella Raeside has been identified. Similarly no record of the marriage of the couple or the birth of any other child has been found.