Possible parents and siblings of Elisabeth Nisbet or Nesbit
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Possible parents and siblings of Elisabeth Nisbet.
As already stated there is probable that Elisabeth Nisbet was one and the same as the Elisabeth Nisbet born 14 March 1776 in Dailly, Ayrshire, to John Nisbet, and I believe her mother was a Margaret Reid
John Nisbet and Margaret Reid
There is a record of the banns being read for John Nesbit and Margaret Reid on 22 March 1768 in in the OPR of Ayr and a further record of their marriage on 29 March 1768 in the OPR of Dailly, Ayrshire - "John Nisbet, Coachman in Killochan and Margaret Reid, Servant in Proselle in parish of Ayr gave their names in order to Marriage March 20th were thrice proclaimed and married the 29th". Killochan was the seat of the Cathcart family, with Sir Andrew Cathcart being the current incumbent at the time, and John Nisbet is listed in the Servant Tax records for the Killochan household from 1777 - 1798 initially as a Groom, and thereafter as a Postilion (a coachman).
I believe Margaret Nisbet, nee Reid, died sometime between the birth of Elizabeth in 1776 and 1793, as there is a marriage of a John Nisbet and Agnes Niven recorded in the 19th December 1793 - "John Nisbet in this parish and Agnes Niven in parish of Kirkoswald gave their names in order to marriage Dec'r 7th were thrice proclaimed and married on the 19th". There is a record in the OPR of Dailly in 1799 of the death of what is assumed to be the same Agnes Niven recorded in the OPR of Dailly for 1799 viz: "Niven, Agnes, wife of John Nisbet of Killochan, died Sept'r 3 aged about 50 years." The identification of her as the wife of "John Nisbet of Killochan" and her age of "about 50 years." which would make her born about 1749 and would seem to confirm that the her 1793 marriage was to "our" John Nisbet. There is a further marriage of a John Nisbet recorded in the OPR of Dailly to a Janet Shaw in 1802 - "John Nisbet in this parish and Janet Shaw in parish of Girvan were booked in order to marriage Nov'r 20th were thrice proclaimed and married at Girvan." Although there is no evidence I would suspect this may be a further marriage of "our" John Nisbet.
John Nisbet and Margaret Reid had the following known children:
Margaret Nisbet born on 28 March 1769 and baptised on 31 March 1769 as recorded in the OPR of Dailly, Ayrshire.
I believe Margaret married Sylvester MacKay aka Mackie, a Gardener, on 5 April 1792 as recorded in the OPR of Dailly, Ayrshire. "Silvester McKay, and Margaret Nisbet, both in this parish, gave their names in order to Marriage March 29th were thrice proclaimed on one day and married the 5th" April". In the OPR record of the birth and baptism of their daughter Margaret, Silvester was identified as "Silvester Mackie, Gardener at Killochan", and there is a Silvester Mackie, a gardener, listed in the Servant Tax records for the Killochan household from 1777 - 1798 which is presumed to be him. Also included in the servants for the Killochan household is his future father in law John Nisbet. Margaret and Sivester had the following known children:
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There is a record of the burial of Silvester Mackie of Killochan on 3 March 1831 aged 88, identified as married. If this is the husband Margaret Nisbet it would mean that Silvbester was about 49 when he married Margaret Nisbet and 67 when their youngest daughter was born. Although this is unusual I believe taking into account the peculiarity of his name that this is the case. Certainly would one imagine that the Sivester Mackie who was listed as a Gardener in the Servant Tax records for the Killochan household for 1777 would have been in his twenties at least so a date of birth of 1744 is not unreasonable.
It would appear going by the age quoted that he was probably the Silvester Mackie whose baptism on 13 December 1744 was recorded in the OPR of Tealing Parish, just north of Dundee in Angus, on the other side of Scotland. (Only the father's name is given, Robert Mackie, but his mother was probably Jean Duncan whose marriage to a Robert Mackie was recorded on 19 July 1731, also in the OPR of Tealing Parish.)
There are of course other possibilties e.g. that Silvester Mackie, a Gardener at Killochan, had a son Silvester who also became a Gardener at Killochan, and was of an age with Margaret, and it was he who married her in 1792. On balance I am inclined to discount this.
It would not be unlikely that Silvester would have been married prior to his marriage to Margaret. There is a record of the birth on 27 May 1769 of a "Will'm natural son to Silvester Mckay and Marg't Ewing" registered in the OPR of Irvine. Although still a long way from Dailly at least it is on the West coast and heading in the right direction.
There is a record in the OPR of Dailly of the burial of Margaret Nisbet, a widow, of Dailly village, on 21st March 1833 with the cause of death given as infirmity, which would fit as the death of Margaret Nisbet, Silvester's widow.
Mary Nisbet born on 10 September 1773 and baptised on 13 September 1773 as recorded in the OPR of Dailly, Ayrshire.
I believe Mary married John Caldwell on 15 Jun 1797 as recorded in the OPR of Dailly, Ayrshire. Mary Nisbet and John Caldwell had the following known children:
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Elizabeth Nisbet born on 14 March 1776 and baptised on 19 March 1776 as recorded in the OPR of Dailly, Ayrshire.""Elisabeth Daughter lawful to John Nisbet Servant at Killochan was born March 14th & baptized the 19th"
Elizabeth married William Adam on 7 May 1801 as recorded in the OPR of Dailly, Ayrshire - "William Adam & Elisabeth Nisbot, both in this parish were booked in order to marriage May 2nd were three proclaimed and married the 7th.". William was born on 25 Apr 1781 in Dailly, Ayrshire, the son of James Adam, a blacksmith, and Jean Kemp. "William, son lawful to James Adam, Smith at Bargeny was born April 25, baptized the 27th."
William and Elizabeth had 7 known children, the first two born\baptised in Dailly, and the other five born\baptised after the family's move to Newton on Ayr. Next generation in our main Adam family Tree.
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