Further details of the children of James Robb and Mary Donald

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FURTHER DETAILS OF THE CHILDREN OF JAMES ROBB AND MARY DONALD


Mary Robb baptised 24 October 1825, Carnwath

Probably died in infancy as second child baptised Mary on 15 January 1836 in Carnwath

John Robb baptised 2 September 1827, Carnwath

John Robb married Janet Wilson on 13 September 1850 in Carnwath. Janet was born on 8 November 1829, the daughter of William Wilson and Isobella Meikle who were married on 2 December 1828 in Carnwath, Lanarkshire. William Wilson was born in 1791 and died on 17 March 1878. Isobella was born in 1799. William and Isabella had at least a further 3 children; James, born in 1831 - Married Margaret Robb, John Robb's younger sister - see MARGARET ROBB for further details, Richard, born in 1834. He married Marion Wilson on 1 August 1856 in Carnwath, Lanarkshire. Marion was born in 1835. Richard and Marion had 10 children. Richard died in 1916, Mary, born in 1836. She married Alex Barrie on 11 September 1857 in Carnwath, Lanarkshire. Alex was born in 1832. Mary and Alex had 8 children including 2 sets of twins. Mary died in 1917. Alex died in 1910.

John and Janet had the following known children:

For the census of 1881 the family were living at Springfield , Bathgate.

1881 Census (4 April) Bathgate (662-1) Book 9 Page 13

Springfield, Bathgate, Linlithgowshire

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
John Robb Head 53 Farmer 110 Acres -108 - Employs family Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Janet Robb Wife 51 Farmer's wife Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Richard Robb Son 20   Lanark, Lanarkshire
Isabella Robb Daughter 19   Lanark, Lanarkshire
Robert Robb Son 16   Lanark, Lanarkshire
Mary Robb Daughter 13   Bathgate, Linlithgowshire
Thomas Robb Son 12 Scholar Bathgate, Linlithgowshire
Alexander Robb Son 9 Scholar Bathgate, Linlithgowshire
Hugh Robb Son 4   Bathgate, Linlithgowshire

For the following 1891 and 1901 census John and Janet Robb were recorded at Overhillhouse farm, Torphichen, West Lothian.

1891 Census ( April) Torphichen 671 Book 3. Page 6-7.

Overhillhouse Farm, Torphichen, West Lothian

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
John Robb Head 63 Farmer Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Janet Robb Wife 61   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Isabella Robb Daughter 29   Lanark, Lanarkshire
Thomas Robb Son 22 Farmers son Bathgate, Linlithgowshire
Alexander Robb Son 19 Student of Education  Bathgate, Linlithgowshire
Hugh Robb Son 14 Farmers son Bathgate, Linlithgowshire
Rachel Brown Servant 18 Farm Servant Shotts, Linlithgow

 

1901 Census ( April) Torphichen 671/1 Book4. Page 4.

Overhillhouse Farm, Torphichen, West Lothian

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
John Robb Head 73 Farmer Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Janet Robb Wife 71   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Isabella Robb Daughter 38   Lanark, Lanarkshire
Hugh Robb Son 24 Farmers Assistant Bathgate, Linlithgowshire
John Greig Servant 19 Farm Servant Hamilton, Linlithgow
Maggie Anthony Servant 19 General Servant Whitburn, Linlithgow

Janet Wilson died at Overhillhouse farm, 23 April 1906, aged 76, and John Robb followed her five years later on 16th November 1911, aged 84 years. They are commemorated on a plaque on the wall of Carnwath cemetery. For further details about the children of John Robb and Janet Wilson, including the James, William, John and Andrew missing from home for the 1881 census - see Appendix F.

Andrew Robb baptised 14 June 1829, Carnwath

Andrew married an Elizabeth Hamilton on 7 August 1857 in Carnwath.

Andrew and Elizabeth had the following known children:

Andrew died sometime between 1871 and 1881 as for the census of 1881 we find the widowed Elizabeth in charge of the farm, Glenend, Muiravonside, Stirling. she has her late husband's nephew, Hugh Law, son of Andrew's sister Susannah Robb and Hugh Law, living with the family employed as a farm servant.

1881 Census (4 April) Carstairs (486) Book 3. Page 21.

Glenend Farm, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire.

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
Elizabeth Robb Head 50 Farmer 22 Acres all arble employing 2 men, 1 girl and 1 boy Carnwath, Lanarkshire
James Robb Son 23 Farmer's son Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Andrew Robb Son 17 Farmer's son Shotts, Lanarkshire
Mary Robb Daughter 15 Farmer's daughter Shotts, Lanarkshire
John Robb Son 10 Scholar Shotts, Lanarkshire
Hugh Law Nephew 17 Farm Servant Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire

 

1881 Census (4 April) Carstairs (486) Book 3. Page 21.

Glenend Farm, Muiravonside, Stirlingshire.

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
Elizabeth Robb Head 50 Farmer 22 Acres all arble employing 2 men, 1 girl and 1 boy Carnwath, Lanarkshire
James Robb Son 23 Farmer's son Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Andrew Robb Son 17 Farmer's son Shotts, Lanarkshire
Mary Robb Daughter 15 Farmer's daughter Shotts, Lanarkshire
John Robb Son 10 Scholar Shotts, Lanarkshire
Hugh Law Nephew 17 Farm Servant Cambusnethan, Lanarkshire

Margaret Robb baptised 3 November 1831, Carnwath

Margaret Robb married James Wilson. James was born in 1831, the son of William Wilson and Isobella Meikle who were married on 2 December 1828 in Carnwath, Lanarkshire. William Wilson was born in 1791 and died on 17 March 1878. Isobella was born in 1799. William and Isabella had at least a further 3 children; Janet, born on 8 November 1829 - Married John Robb, Margaret Robb's elder brother - see JOHN ROBB for further details; Richard, born in 1834. He married Marion Wilson on 1 August 1856 in Carnwath, Lanarkshire. Marion was born in 1835. Richard and Marion had 10 children. Richard died in 1916; Mary, born in 1836. She married Alex Barrie on 11 September 1857 in Carnwath, Lanarkshire. Alex was born in 1832. Mary and Alex had 8 children including 2 sets of twins Mary died in 1917. Alex died in 1910.

It is believed that Margaret Robb and James Wilson had only the one child - William, born in 1860. James Wilson died in 1916.

Their son William Wilson married Lilias Todd daughter of Thomas Todd and Helen Elder. Lilias, born in 1861. I believe they had at least five children -

Lilias Wilson nee Todd died in 1946.

James Robb (Bapt. 13th December 1834 Carnwath)

James Robb married Margaret Wilson on 20 May 1859 in Carnwath. Margaret was born on 25 July 1834, the daughter of James Wilson and Margaret Crawford who were married on 9th November 1819 in Gorbals, Glasgow, Lanarkshire. It is not known if this Margaret Wilson was related to the Janet Wilson his brother James had married and the James Wilson his sister Margaret had married but it would seem likely although obviously they were not sisters. James Wilson and Margaret Crawford had at least a further five children; William, born 17 December 1822 in Carstairs; Janet, born 15 October 1824 in Carstairs; Anne, born 12 July 1827 in Carstairs; James, born 14 September 1832 in Carstairs; Margaret, born 25 July 1834 in Carstairs; Isabella, born 30 November 1837 in Carstairs

James and Margaret had the following known children:

For the census of 1881 the family were farming Cruickness.

1881 Census (4 April) Cruickness (432) Book 5 Page 4

Cruickness, Inverkeithing, Fife.

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
James Robb Head 46 Farmer of 100 acres arable Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Margaret Robb Wife 46 Farmer's wife Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Mary Robb Daughter 16 Farmer's daughter Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire
Janet Robb Daughter 13 Scholar  Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire
Susan Robb Daughter 11 Scholar  Linlithgow, Linlithgowshire
Anna Robb Daughter 8 Scholar  Inverkeithing, Fife
Isabella Robb Daughter 5 Scholar  Inverkeithing, Fife
John Robb Son 1   Inverkeithing, Fife

Sadly Margaret Wilson died three and a half years after this census on 10 October 1884. She probably buried in Carnwath burial ground and there is certainly a stone comemorating her passing there.

On 10 April 1908 James and Margaret's daughter Isabella Robb, (aged 5 in the above census), married Thomas Law, son of Hugh Law and Susanna Robb (James's sister). At the time of the marriage Isabella was living at Woodend, Carnwath. Sadly Isabella died on 24 June 1908, nine days after the birth of a son, John Robb Law, on 15 June 1908, at Chapel Lane, Falkirk. Her death is comemorated on the family headstone in Carnwath burial ground.

James Robb died on 5 November 1920, in his 87 year. He was also probably buried in Carnwath burial ground and there is certainly a stone comemorating his passing there.

Mary Robb baptised 15 January 1836, Carnwath

Mary married Robert Stewart, son of William Stewart, a coal miner, and Margaret Black, on 12 November 1869 in Upper Haywood, Carnwath. Robert was born about 1846 in West Calder, Midlothian. At the time of his marriage Robert was employed as a "Labourer at a Colliery". His father Willim Stewart was recorded as deceased but his mother Margaret as alive and had remarried being recorded as "Margaret Affleck".

Mary and Robert had the following known children:

For the census of 1881 the family were living at Lilybank House, Queensferry, Linlithgowshire.

1881 Census (4 April) Linlithgow (670) Book 1 Page 43

Lilybank House, Queensferry, Linlithgowshire

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
Robert Stewart Head 32 General Labourer West Calder, Edinburgh
Mary R. Stewart Wife 42   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
William Stewart Son 9 Scholar Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Margaret Stewart Daughter 6 Scholar Carnwath, Lanarkshire
James R. Stewart Son 4   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Susan W. Stewart Daughter 2   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Robert Stewart Son 10 months   Queensferry, Linlithgowshire
William Watson Lodger 53 Slater Banchory, Fofarshire

Janet Robb baptised 28 June 1839, Carnwath

Janet married William Black, son of John Black and Agnes Black, on 28 December 1860 at Upper Haywood, Carnwath. William was born on 17 August 1836 in Whitburn, Linlithgowshire. At the time of the marriage William was employed as a ploughman. His parents (neither of whom were recorded as deceased at the time of their sons wedding), were married on 28 March 1824 West Calder or Shotts, and William was one of at least six children.

Janet and William had the following known children:

For the census of 1881 the family were living at Fauldhouse Farm, Whitburn, where William was farming 80 acres.

1881 Census (4 April) Whitburn (673-2) Book 2 Page 23

Fauldhouse Farm, Whitburn

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
William Black Head 44 Farmer 0f 80 acres Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Janet R. Black Wife 41   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
John Black Son 19 Farm Servant Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Mary Black Daughter 18 Farm Servant  Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Agnes Black Daughter 16 Farm Servant  Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Margaret R. Black Daughter 14 Farm Servant  Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Janet Black Daughter 13 Farm Servant  Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
James Black Son 9 Scholar Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Elizabeth Black Daughter 7 Scholar Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
William Black Son 5 Scholar Whitburn, Linlithgowshire
Susanne Black Daughter 10 months   Whitburn, Linlithgowshire

Robert Robb baptised 23 June 1842, Carnwath

Robert Robb married Margaret Shaw on 16th December 1864, West Calder.

Robert and Margaret had the following known children:

For the census of 1881 the family were living at Skylaw, Carnwath, but as previously stated running Upper Haywood farm.

1881 Census (8 April) Carnwath (632) Book 8. Page 4. 

Skylaw Farm, (Upper Haywood?), Carnwath

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
Robert Robb Head 38 Farmer 130 acres arable of 730 acres Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Margaret Robb Wife 34 Farmer's wife Edinburgh, Midlothian
James Robb Son 15 Farmer's son Carnwath, Lanarkshire
John Robb Son 13 Farmer's son Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Robert Robb Son 11 Scholar Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Mary Robb Daughter 9 Scholar Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Margaret Robb Daughter 6 Scholar Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Andrew Robb Son 4   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Hugh L. Robb Son 2   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Jessie Robb Daughter 3 months   Carnwath, Lanarkshire

For the census of 1891 the family were living at Upper Lawhead Farm. I would guess they were farming what was Upper Haywood. Whether Upper Lawhead is the same dwelling as Upper Haywood I know not.

1891 Census (5 April) Carnwath (632) Book ? Page ? 

Upper Lawhead Farm, (Upper Haywood?), Carnwath

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
Robert Robb Head 48 Farmer Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Margaret Robb Wife 44 Farmer's wife Edinburgh, Midlothian
Mary Robb Daughter 19 Ex Pupil Teacher Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Maggie Robb Daughter 16 Farmer's daughter Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Andrew Robb Son 14 Farmer's son Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Hugh Robb Son 12 Scholar Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Jessie Robb Daughter 10 Scholar Carnwath, Lanarkshire
William Robb Son 7 Scholar Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Sussie Robb Daughter 5 Scholar Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Thomas Robb Son 3   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
David Robb Son 9 months   Carnwath, Lanarkshire
Robina Cowan Servant 17 General servant - domestic Carnwath, Lanarkshire

Thomas Robb baptised 14 July 1845, Carnwath

Died in infancy as commemorated on a plaque on the wall of Carnwath graveyard, and on a stone at the far end of the graveyard