Details of Michael Grieve and Isabela Scott and their children Walter, Maggie, Thomas, Adam< William, Mary, Janet, Herbert, Isabella, Agnes and John.
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Michael Grieve married Isabela Scott, on 23 August 1866 in Hawick. Isabella was born 18 May 1846 in Hawick, , Roxburghshire. Michael Grieve was the son of Walter Grieve and Mary Oliver, born about 1842 in Hawick, Roxburghshire. Isabella Scott was born 18 May 1846 in Hawick, Roxburghshire, the daughter of Thomas Scott and Mary Helm. (For further detail of the ancestry of Michael Grieve and further chilren of Walter Grieve and Mary Oliver - click here.)
Michael and Isabella had the following known children -
The John Grieve (1886) is assumed to be a son of Michael and Isabella as a consequence of the information given in the 1911 census which stated that they had had 11 children, three of whom had died. The inclusion of this John along with the William Helm Grieve born and died in 1874, and the Herbert Grieve born and died 1878, along with the 8 known children would fit with this statement.
For the census of 1871 Michael and Isabella were living at 7 Walter's Wynd, Hawick, with their two young children Walter aged 3, and Maggie aged 1.
1871 Census (2 April) Hawick (789) Book 14. Page 22.
7 Walter's Wynd, Hawick.
|Michael Grieve||Head||28||Woollen Hosiery Warehouseman||Hawick, Roxburghshire|
|Isabella Grieve||Wife||24||Hawick, Roxburghshire|
|Walter Grieve||Son||3||Hawick, Roxburghshire|
|Maggie Grieve||Daughter||1||Hawick, Roxburghshire|
For the census of 1881 Michael and his family were recorded at 27 Chestnut Street, Leicester. I suspect they moved to Leicester in 1876.
1881 Census (4th. April) Leicester St Mary, Leicester (3137) Folio 147 Page 11.
27 Chestnut St, St Mary, Leicester.
|Michael Grieve||Head||38||Wool Factory Manager||Scotland|
|Thomas S. Grieve||Son||9||Scholar||Scotland|
|Adam Grieve||Son||8||Scholar||Leicester, England|
|Mary H. Grieve||Daughter||6||Scholar||Leicester, England|
|Janet Grieve||Daughter||4||Scholar||Leicester, England|
|Isabella Grieve||Daughter||1||Leicester, England|
The 1891 census shows the family resident in The Laurels, Wigston Fields, Leicester with the inclusion of a further daughter Agnes born Apr-Jun 1882 in Leicester.
1891 Census (6th. April) Wigston, Leicester (RG12/2499) Book ?? Page 38.
The Laurels, Wigston Fields, Leicester.
|Michael Grieve||Head||48||Hosiery Factory Manager||Scotland|
|Walter Grieve||Son||23||Hosiery Hand||Scotland|
|Maggie Grieve||Daughter||21||Hosiery Hand||Scotland|
|Thomas Grieve||Son||19||Hosiery Mechanic||Scotland|
|Mary Grieve||Daughter||16||Hosiery Machinist||Scotland|
|Janet Grieve||Daughter||14||Scholar||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|Isabella Grieve||Daughter||11||Scholar||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|Agnes Grieve||Daughter||9||Scholar||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|John Neehdam||Boarder||24||Chemist's Assistant||Narborough, Leicestershire|
The William Butler, aged 21, sailor included in the household was the son of Michael's sister Agnes Grieve and Andrew Butler born 23 March 1870 in Wilton, Roxburghshire. Agnes had married an Andrew Butler on 9 November 1869 in Hawick, Roxburghshire, and she and Andrew had two other children: Mary born 31 January 1872, Wilton, Roxburghshire and Walter Grieve born 29 April 1874, Hawick, Roxburghshire. Agnes died on 5 October 1914 in Hawick, Roxburghshire.
The boarder John Needham, aged 34, a chemist's assistant, was to marry Michael and Isabella's eldest daughter Maggie sometime in the following three months.
1901 census for Michael and Isabella from a combination of 1901 census indexes shows them living in Leicester with Michael employed as the Manager of a Hosiery factory.
1901 Census (1 April) Leicester fomerly Aylestone
|Michael Grieve||Head||58||Manager of Hosiery Factory||Scotland|
|Adam Grieve||Son||28||Cattle Dealer||Scotland|
|Janet Grieve||Daughter||24||Leicester, England|
|Isabella Grieve||Daughter||21||Manageress Of Hosiery Factory||Leicester, England|
|Agnes Grieve||Daughter||18||Dressmaker||Leicester, England|
For the 1911 census Michael and Isabella were living in Belgrave House, Queeniburgh with their two youngest daughters. This census also records Michael and Isabella as having had eleven children, three of whom were deceased by 1911.
1911 Census (2 April) Barrow upon Soar, Leicestershire
Belgrave House, Queeniburgh, Leicestershire.
|Michael Grieve||Head||68||Retired Factory Manager||Hawick, Scotland|
|Isabella Grieve||Wife||64||Hawick, Scotland|
|Mary Grieve||Daughter||36||Hawick, Scotland|
|Agnes Grieve||Daughter||29||Dressmaker||Leicester, England|
Michael Grieve died on 7 January 1912 at Belgrave House, Queeniborough. In the Probate Index he was identified as a "retired Factory Manager" and he left £1566 14s 8d in his will with his executor as Thomas S. Grieve, his son. Note he is listed as Michael Griere in all the online BMD Indexes. An announcement of his demise and a brief obituary was carried in the local paper of his home town back in Scotland.
|The Hawick News - Friday 12th January 1912|
It would seem almost certain that Isabella Grieve nee Scott, his widow, passed away eight years later as there is a death listed in the index for an Isabella Grieve, aged 73, in the January-March quarter of 1920 in the registration district of Barrow on Soar (Ref Vol 8a Page 202)
Further Details of Michael and Isabella's children - where known.
Walter Grieve born 2 November 1867, Hawick, Roxburghshire.
Walter was recorded with his parents for the 1891 census identified as aged 23 and working as a Hosiery Hand. I believe Walter married Vine Alice Steadman with the banns read on 14 October 1894, in Leicestershire and the actual marriage taking place on 2 November 1894, Leicester, Leicestershire. Alice was born on 8 August 1875 in Barton, Cambridgeshire, possibly the daughter of Robert and Harriett Steadman. Walter and Alice had the following children:
For the census of 1901 the family were recorded in Leicester.
1901 Census (1 April) Leicester fomerly Aylestone
|Walter Grieve||Head||33||Framework Knitter Hosiery||Scotland|
|Vine A. Grieve||Wife||25||Barton, Cambridgeshire|
|Florence E. Grieve||Daughter||3||Leicester, England|
|Isabella A. Grieve||Daughter||1||Leicester, England|
For the 1911 census Walter and Vine were living in 73 Haddinham Road, Leicester with their family of 5 children. The house was recorded as having 6 rooms. They were also recorded as having had six children in total and having had one die.
1911 Census (2 April) Leicester
73 Haddinham Road, Leicester.
|Walter Grieve||Head||43||Cottons Patent Hand Making Lambswool Underwear||Hawick, Roxburgh, Scotland|
|Vine Alice Grieve||Wife||35||Barton, Cambridgeshire|
|Florence Grieve||Daughter||13||School||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|Isabella Grieve||Daughter||11||School||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|Daisy Grieve||Daughter||7||School||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|Cecil Grieve||Son||4||School||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|Robert Grieve||Son||3||School||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|George Dencher||Boarder||35||Decorative Painter||Great Glen, Leicestershire|
For the 1939 register for England and Wales the couple were recorded at 73 Haddenham Road, Leicester, Leicestershire. Walter was listed as born on 2 November 1869, a Hosiery Frame Worker (retired), and Vine was listed as born on 8 August 1875, with "Upaid Domestic Durties". Included in the household were two of their children Robert T. W. Grieve listed as born on 5 February 1905, employed in Hosiery Machine Maintenance, and Kathleen J. Grieve listed as born on 7 July 1911, a Hosiery Stove Mender, and George Dencher listed as born on 17 May 1875, a Painter.
I believe Walter died in 1950 as there is a death for a Walter Grieve, aged 82, recorded in the January-March quarter of that year in the registration district of Leicester, Leicestershire, and that Alice died in 1964 as there is a death for a Vine A Grieve, aged 88, in the January-March quarter of that year in the registration district of Leicester, Leicestershire.
Maggie Scott Grieve born 17 August 1869, Hawick, Roxburghshire.
Maggie was was recorded with her parents for the 1891 census identified as aged 21 and working as a Hosiery Hand. Included in the household was John Needham and a few days after this census on 12 April 1891, in Wigston Magna, Leicestershire, the banns were read proclaiming the intention of Maggie and John to marry. The marriage itself took place on 30 April 1891, in Wigston Magna, Leicestershire. John was born on 13 December 1866 in Narborough, Leicestershire, the son of George and Harriett Needham. Maggie and John had the following children:
For the census of 1901 Maggie and John were living in Leicester with their three children. John was recorded as a Foreman Manufacturing Chemist.
1901 Census (1 April) Leicester fomerly St Mary
|John Needham||Head||33||Foreman Manufacturing Chemist||Narborough, Leicestershire|
|Isabella Needham||Daughter||9||Leicester, England|
|Herbert Needham||Son||7||Leicester, England|
|Maggie Needham||Daughter||4||Leicester, England|
For the 1911 census Maggie Needham and her family were in Manchester but John her husband is not listed. They have had an addition to their family in the shape of a daughter Mary Stella born in 1908, but sadly I suspect had lost a child between her birth and her elder sister Margaret as the census records they have had five children one of whom had died.
1911 Census (2 April) Brooks Bar, Manchester.
62 Kings Road, Brooks Bar, Manchester.
|Isabella Needham||Daughter||19||Shorthand Typist||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|George Herbert Needham||Son||17||Junior Cleark - Accountant||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|Maggie Needham||Daughter||14||School Girl||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|Mary Stella Needaham||Daughter||3||Leicester, Leicestershire|
A couple of months after this census on 17 June 1911 Maggie and her daughters, Isabella aged 19, Maggie aged 11, and baby Mary Stella aged 3, set sail for New York on board the SS. Baltic arriving in New York on 25 June 1911. The passenger manifests records Maggie as going to join her husband John Needham at 603 7th Ave, Seattle, Washington, and it would seem likely that this explains Johns absence from the household from the census a couple of months earlier. i.e. he was already in the USA and Maggie and family were in Manchester waiting to join him. The passenger manifest states that Maggie was bringing $175 with her and gives her last address in the UK as Manchester with her named relative in the UK as Mr Grieve, Belgrave House, Queeniburgh, Leicester - her father. The manifest also gives a physical description of Maggie and her daughters. Maggie herself was 5' 1" with a fair complexion, dark brown hair and grey eyes, with a scar on her neck under her left ear. Her eldest daughter Isabella was described as 5' 3" with a fair complexion, brown hair and dark blue eyes. Maggie her middle girl was described as 4' 8" with a fair complexion, dark brown hair and grey eyes, with slight cut marks on her nose. Mary Stella the baby was described as 3' 3" with a fair complexion, light brown hair and blue eyes
Their son, George Herbert Needham, seems to have joined the family in America later as for the 1920 census he was included in the family household resident in Mayfair Avenue, Seattle, King, Washington, along with his father, mother and youngest sister Mary. John, the father was recorded as aged 49, a Clerk in a Drug Store, Maggie, the mother as aged 46, George himself as aged 26, originally described as a University Student but with that scored through and None written in instead, and Mary aged 12 and also listed with no occupation.
I believe John Needham died in 1929 as there is an entry in the Washington Death Certificates, for the death of a John Needham on 25 July 1929 in Seattle, King, Washington and his subsequent burial on 27 July 1929 in the Acacia Park cemetery there, and whose father was listed as George Needham, whose mother's surname was given as Smith, and spouse's name given as Maggie Needham
For the census of 1930 the widowed Margaret, was living with her unmarried son, George H. Needham in Brooklyn, Kings, New York. Maggie was recorded as aged 59 a widow, and George as aged 34 with the occupation of Chemist.
It would seem that three years after this census the widowed Maggie and George moved to San Francisco, as there is a record of a Maggie Scott Needham sailing with her son George H. Needham from New York on 4 May 1933 on board the SS Santa Anna bound for San Francisco. Maggie was listed as Maggie Scott Needham, a widow, aged 59 born in Hawick. George was listed as a Chemist aged 39 born in Leicester. In both cases their last permanent place of residence was given as Brooklyn, New York.
I believe Margaret Scott Needham died in 1942 as there is an entry California Death Index, for the death of a Maggie Scott Needham on 12 February 1942, in San Francisco, California, USA, who was born on 17 August 1869 in "other country", with the father's surname listed as Grieve and the mother's surname listed as Scott.
Thomas Scott Grieve born 5 May 1871, Hawick, Roxburghshire.
Thomas was recorded with his parents for the 1891 census identified as aged 19 and working as a Hosiery Mechanic. I believe Thomas married Emma Gibbs with the marriage recorded in the April-June quarter of 1897 in the registration district of Leicester, Leicestershire. I believe Emma was born on 23 January 1874 in Wednesbury, Staffordshire the daughter of James and Ruth Gibbs. Thomas and Emma had the following children:
For the census of 1901 Thomas, Emma and their daughter Hilda were recorded living in Leicester with Thomas listed as a "Machine Engineer".
1901 Census (1 April) Leicester fomerly St Margarets
|Thomas Grieve||Head||29||Machine Engineer||Scotland|
|Emma Grieve||Wife||27||Wednesbury, Staffordshire|
|Hilda Grieve||Daughter||3||Leicester, England|
I understand Thomas Grieve was involved in supplying machinery for the knitting industry in Leicester founding a firm T. Grieve Co. Ltd. which survived at least into the second half of the 20th century. I understand that he instituted and patented a number of new machines for hosiery knitting along with a William Spiers although some documents recording litigation between the two suggests a subsequent "falling out"
Quote- "1890s- After the Griswold hand knitting machine came the ‘S and G’ semi automatic machine, which was introduced by William Spiers and Thomas Grieve"
Certainly Thomas would seem to have done fairly well for himself as he had a house built for himself and his family circa 1905 in the outskirts of Leicester in the Oadby\Wigston area called Highgrove. The following description from the internet and photos of the existing building (now a hall of residence for Leicester University) show a prosperous gentleman's residence: -
Highgrove - Stoughton Drive South Highgrove. This is another red brick Jacobethan style house built for T S Grieve, a manufacturer of knitting machines, needles and bicycle parts in c1905. It has a stone entrance door and canopy, transom and mullion windows and a red clay tile roof. The gatepiers to the road survive though the railing is modern. To the rear are extensive garden buildings and greenhouses, visible from Southmeads Road, which are in poor condition. The long gardens contained waterfalls and pools, the outlines of which can still be traced.
It is at Highgrove that we find the family for the census of 1911, along with three domestic staff.
1911 Census (2 April) Blaby, Leicestershire
|Thomas Scott Grieve||Head||39||Hosiery Machine Builder||Hawick, Scotland|
|Emma. Grieve||Wife||37||Wednesbury, Staffordshire|
|Hilda May Grieve||Daughter||13||Leicester|
|Vera Scott Grieve||Daughter||7||Leicester|
|Nora Winifred Grieve||Daughter||2||Leicester|
|Olive Isabel Beaver||Servant||20||Nursemaid - Domestic||Tilton on the Hill, Leicestershire|
|Olive Doris Beaver||Servant||15||Housemaid - Domestic||Tilton on the Hill, Leicestershire|
|Lily MacDermot||Servant||23||Cook - Domestic||Willenhall, Staffordshire|
For the 1939 England and Wales register the couple were recorded at The Shrubbery, Oadby, Leicestershire. Thomas was listed as born on 5 May 1871, a Hosiery Machine Builder and Emma was listed as born on 23 January 1873, with "Upaid Domestic Durties".
Thomas died aged 85 on 14 June 1956 with the death recorded in the April-June quarter of that year in the registration district of Leicester, Leicestershire and was buried on 18 June 1956. Emma died aged 87 in 1961 with the death recorded in the July-September quarter of that year in the registration district of Leicester, Leicestershire. They were interred in Welford Road Cemetery, Leicester and the headstone also commemorated their daughter Nora and her husband Richard Forster, as well as their daughter Hilda (Dilly) and two of her three spouses - Sydney Wells and Wreford Watts.
The Grieve Headstone in Wellford Road Cemetery, Leicester
IN LOVING MEMORY OF
THOMAS SCOTT GRIEVE
EVERLOVING HUSBAND AND ADORED FATHER
1871 - 1956
A HEART OF GOLD
ALSO EMMA HIS MOST BELOVED WIFE
AND A DEARLY LOVED MOTHER
1874-1961 ~ DEVOTED
LOVED WIFE OF RICHARD FORSTER
AND DEARLY LOVED DAUGHTER OF
THOMAS SCOTT & EMMA GRIEVE
BORN AUGUST 4TH 1908
PASSED TO A HIGHER LIFE MARCH 11TH 1935
AND THE ABOVE RICHARD
SEPTEMBER 21ST 1903
OCTOBER 15TH 1937
SIDNEY WELLS A GOOD SAMARITAN
MOST PRECIOUS AND ADORED HUSBAND OF DILY
1902 UNTIL THE DAY DAWNS 1960
DEARLY LOVED HUSBAND AND FATHER 1894 - 1978
DILLY LOVING WIFE AND MOTHER
1898 - 1988
Adam Grieve born 5 April 1872, Hawick, Roxburghshire.
Adam was recorded with his parents for the 1901 census identified as aged 28 and working as a Cattle Dealer. For the 1911 census Adam was living in Knighton, Leicestershire, recorded as aged 38, single, born in Hawick, Scotland, with the occupation of self employed Grazier.
1911 Census (2 April) Knighton, Leicestershire
|Adam Grieve||Head||38||Grazier (Own Accord)||Hawick, Scotland|
It woud seem that two years after this census, on 13th November 1913 Adam was arrested for the theft of "one cow. one ox, and one heifer. the property of James Hall at Frolesworth, on November 12th. 1913". He was identified as Adam Grieve (40). Cow-keeper and the case was tried on 6 January 1914 and Adam plead Guilty. According to an article pulbished two days later in the "Melton Mowbray Mercury and Oakham and Uppingham News", although the court accepted it was a first offence and that he was of previous good character and was of highly respectable parents, his relitives holding good positions in the town Adam was sentenced to 3 months imprisonment with hard labour. There also seems to have been a suggestion at his trial that he should emmigrate to Australia! There does not seem to be any obvious death record in the UK for Adam so it would seem possible he did emmigrate to Australia or elsewhere but as of yet nothing else is known.
NOTE There is an Adam Grieve, a Grazier, who died in Queensland on 27 September 1951, (probate 1 December 1952) who fits. HOWEVER this Adam Grieve was recorded in the Queensland BMD as the son of Robert Grieve and Elizabeth Dickson which would make him the Adam Grieve born to Robert Grieve and Elisabeth Dickson on 11 January 1871 in Ettrick, Selkirkshire. It would seem this Adam married an Ellen Alice Maud Dobbin on 20 February 1908 in Toowoomba, so he had emigrated to Australia prior to that date. Adam and Ellen had four daughters and one son. (From Remember Muckadilla: People, Properties, Businesses and Sporting Events By David Bowden) It would seem Ellen died aged 80 on 21 October 1958 at Stenner Street, Toowoomba. She was identified as the widow of Adam Grieve of Glenochar, Muckadilla. (Australia Cemetery Inscriptions, 1802-2005)
There are also 3 other Adam Grieves born around the same date as "our" Adam Grieve
William Helm Grieve born 2 March 1874, Hawick, Roxburghshire.
There is a death of a William Helm Grieve aged 0 registered in Hawick in 1974 in the Scottish BMD index which is assumed to be the death of this William.
Mary Helm Grieve born 24 January 1875 in 9 O'Connel Street, Hawick, Roxburghshire.
Mary was recorded with her parents for the 1911 census aged 36 with no occupation given although in the previous census ske was listed as a dressmaker. She was also later recorded in the 1939 register for England and Wales at 98 New Zealand Road, Cardiff, resident in the household of her married sister Agnes and her husband John B. Evans. She was listed as born 24 January 1875 and of "Private Means". I believe Mary died in 1949 as their is ehe death of Mary H. Grieve, aged 74, recorded in the January-March quarter of that year in the registration district of Cardiff, Wales.
Janet Grieve whose birth was recorded in the January-March quarter of 1877 in the registration districy of Leicester, Leicestershire.
Janet was recorded with her parents for the 1901 census aged 24 with no occupation given. I believe Janet married Henry Carrington Horner on 15 October 1901, Aylestone, Leicestershire. I believe Henry was born in 1871 with the birth recorded in the April-June quarter of that year in the registration district of Blaby, Leicetershire. Janet and Henry had the following children:
Shortly after the birth of their first daughter Henry went to Canada sailing on the SS. Lake Manitoba from Liverpool on 3 October 1905 and arriving in Quebec on the 15 October. Eight months later Janet and their baby daughter Rose followed sailing from Liverpool on 12 July 1906 onboard the SS Empress of Britain and arriving in Quebec on 19 July. She is listed as going to join her husband, a farmer. For the Canadian census of 1911 Henry, Janet and their children Rosa May (Mary in the census), Hilda Maud (Maud in this census), and Harold were recorded at Lot 6, Concession 1 (West) in South York, Ontario. Henry seems to have been working as a self-employed Gardener, but whether this means a gardener in the modern parlance or possibly a "market gardener" is unclear.
On 3 October 1912 Henry and his family crossed the border into the US bound for Oakland, California. He was listed as a Farmer from Toronto and his next of kin was given as William Horner, Park Farm, Strelley, Nottinghanshire. Henry was describer as 5' 10", dark complexion, with brown hair and blue eyes, whilst Janet was describer as 5' 3", fair complexion, with light brown hair and blue eyes.
By the time of the 1920 census Henry and Janet were recorded at Precinct 6, Petaluma City, Sonoma, California. Their family had since the previous census with the birth of a further two children, Harry Ernest, born in 1912 in Toronto and Arthur A. born aged 8 months born in 1919 in California. Henry was recorded as a Labourer in a Creamery.
For the census of 1930 Henry and Janet were still recorded in California, but now in Hayward, Alameda. Their three younger children Harold, Ernest and Arthur were still recorded in the household. Henry is now a Dairyman in a Dairy and it would seem Janet was also working in the creamery.
I believe Henry Carrinton Horner died in 1933 as there is an entry in the California Death Index of the demise of a Henry C. Horner born 1871 in California for that year
For the 1940 census the widowed Janet was living in Mono Street, Eden, Alameda, California. Her three sons Harold, Ernest and Arthur were again recorded in the household. Harold was recorded as a Trucker for a Fruit Canning concern and Ernest as a General Labourer. The youngest son Arthur has no occupation listed.
I believe Janet Horner died on 1941, as the is an entry in the California Death Index for the demise of a Janet Horner, born 3 January 1877 in "other country", who died on 8 November 1941 in Alameda, California, USA, with the father's name given as Grieve and the mother's surname given as Scott.
Herbert Grieve born 1 August 1878, baptism: 21 August 1878, Leicester, Leicestershire
Herbert Grive born 1 August 1878 and baptised 21 August 1878, in Leicester, Leicestershire. I believe that Herbert died within months of his birth as there is a death of a Herbert Grieve recorded in the July-September quarter of 1878 in the registration districy of Leicester, Leicestershire and he does not appear of subsequent censuses.
Isabella Grieve whose birth was recorded in the January-March quarter of 1879 in the registration districy of Leicester, Leicestershire.
Isabella was recorded with her parents for the 1901 census identified as aged 21 and working as a Manageress of a Hosiery Factory. I believe Isabella married John Watson on 1 September 1904, Leicester, Leicestershireand for the 1911 census she was living in Hinkley, Leicestershire, with her husband John, a Manager in Cotton Shirt and Pant Manufacturing establishment. The couple were reccorded as having been married for 6 years but they had had no children.
1911 Census (2 April) Hinckley, Leicestershire
|John Watson||Head||34||Manager Cotton Shirt and Pant Manufacturing||Leicester, Leicestershire|
|Isabella Watson||Wife||31||Leicester, Leicestershire|
For the 1939 England and Wales register the couple were recorded at Gas Lane, Hinkley, Leicestershire. John was listed as born on 16 June 1876, a "Hosiery and Underwear Manufacturer", and Isabella was listed as born on 3 February 1879, with "Domestic Duties (upaid)". There were no children in the household and as there were no children recorded with the couple in the 1911 census and no children recorded in the BMD index 1911-1939 with the mother's maiden name Grieve, it would seem the Isabella and John had no offspring. However there was a lodger Reginald W. J. Cavell, an Assistant master at a Grammar school, born 15 September 1913.
I believe Isabella died in 1953 as there is the death of a Isabella Watson, aged 73, recorded in the April-June quarter of that year in the registration district of Hinkley, Leicestershire, and John died in 1966 as there is the death of a John Watson, aged 89, recorded in the April-June quarter of that year in the registration district of Hinkley, Leicestershire.
Agnes Grieve whose birth was recorded in the April-June quarter of 1882 in the registration districy of Leicester, Leicestershire.
Agnes was recorded with her parents for the 1911 census identified as aged 19 and working as a dressmaker. I believe Agnes married John Benjamin Evans with the banns called on 18 July 1920 and with the marriage itself happening on 14 August 1920, Hinckley, Leicestershire. For the 1939 England and Wales register the couple were recorded at 98 New Zealand Road, Cardiff, Wales. John was listed as born on 14 November 1889, a "Colliery Haulier below Ground (Incapcitated)", and Agnes was listed as born on 2 April 1882 , with "UPD" (upaid Domestic Durties). There were no children in the household and as there were no children recorded in the BMD index 1920-1939 with the mother's maiden name Grieve, it would seem the Agnes and John had no offspring. However also recorded in the household were Agnes's sister, Mary Helm Grieve listed as born 24 January 1875 and of "Private Means", and what is assumed to possibly be the brother of John B. Evans, Fred Evans listed as born 14 February 1898, a General Clerk. As Evans is somewhat common in Wales finding an obvious record of death of either Agnes or John is impractical.
John Grieve whose birth was recorded in the July-September quarter of 1886 in the registration districy of Leicester, Leicestershire.
It is assumed that this John Grieve was a son of Michael and Isabella and that it was his death that was recorded in the July-September quarter of the same year in the registration district of Leicester, Leicestershire.