Further details where known of the children of Alexander Grieve and Elizabeth Young Rutherford.

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Further details where known of the children of Alexander Grieve and Elizabeth Young Rutherford
(For further information on the ancestors and descendants of this couple go to the main Grieve Family History page.)

Barbara Grieve, born on 3 Dec 1853, Hawick (Mother’s name - Elizabeth Young Rutherford)

Recorded with her mother for the census 1861-1911. Barbara died unmarried on 19 Feb 1927 in 17 Waverley Terrace, Hawick. Her occupation was given as "home housekeeper" and her parents were confirmed on the certificate as Alexander Grieve, a woolsorter, and Elizabeth Grieve, maiden name Young. The informant was James Russell, her nephew, son of her sister Elizabeth (see following), who gave his address as 6 Rosevale Street, Hawick.

Rachel Grieve born on 11 Sep 1855, Hawick (Mother’s name - Elizabeth Young)

Rachel married James Mathieson a railway guard son of James Mathieson and Janet Dickson on 6 Dec 1883 in Wilton Hawick. - Next Generation in Family History. For further information on the ancestors and descendants of this couple go to the main Grieve Family History page.

Michael Grieve born on 14 Apr 1858, High St., Hawick (Mother’s name - Elizabeth Young Rutherford)

I believe Michael emmigrated to Australia in 1882 on board the SS. Orontes and that 3 years later in Sydney, New South Wales, on 24 December 1885 he married Agnes Turnbull. I believe Agnes had emmigrated in 1883 on board the SS. Sorata and was born on 19 January 1861 in Wilton, Hawick, Roxburghshire, the daughter of James Turnbull, a Woolo Framework Knitter, and Helen Nilson (m. 10 November 1851, Hawick, Roxburghshire). As both Michael and Agnes were from Hawick one woders if they were an item prior to their emmigartion or if they met in Australia due to their shared roots.
It is believed that Michael and Agnes had the following children:

What is almost certaimnly a record of Michael appears in the Austrlian census for Kellyville, Castle Hill, Parramatta, Cumberland county. He is listed as Michael Grieve with the household consisting 2 males and 2 females which would fit with it being himself, plus his wife Agnes, and their infant children, Ellen and Alexander.
Australian 1891 Census - Kellyville
Michael Grieve died on 8 Sep 1931 in 23 Terry Street, Blakehurst, Sydney, NSW, Australia. Agnes Grieve, nee Turnbull, died about 29 January 1945 in Dulwich Hill, Marrickville, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Sydney Morning Herald Wednesday 9 September 1931
Death of Michael Grieve
Sydney Morning Herald Tuesday 30 January 1945
Death of Agnes Grieve, nee Turnbull

Elizabeth Grieve born on 18 Aug 1861 in Allars Mill, Jedburgh (Mother’s name - Elizabeth Young Rutherford)

Elizabeth married James Russell, a Stone Mason, son of James Russell and Jane Lees on 1 September 1884 in New Brunswick, New Jersey, USA. James was born on 16 Feb 1860 in Ancrum, Roxburghshire.

Elizabeth and James had the following children:

1891 Census (6 April) Wilton (810) Book 5. Page 2.

5 Albion Place, Wilton, Hawick.

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
James Russell Head 31 Stone Mason Ancrum, Roxburghshire
Elizabeth Russell Wife 29   Jedburgh, Roxburghshire
James Russell Son 5   Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Alexander Russell Son 4   Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA
Lizzie Russell Daughter 1   Hawick, Roxburghshire

James died in 21 August 1900 at 1 Elm Grove, Hawick, Roxburghshire. His will consists of 17 pages.

1901 Census (1 April) Hawick (789-1) Book 10-1 Page 16.

1 Elm Grove, Hawick.

Name Relationship Age Occupation Where Born
Elizabeth Russell Head 39 Domestic Housekeeper (Mason's Widow) Jedburgh, Roxburghshire
James A(lexander) Russell Son 15 Apprentice Watchmaker USA - British Subject
Alexander R(obert) L(ees) Russell Son 14 Apprentice Hosiery Warehouseman USA - British Subject
Lizzie R(utherford) Russell Daughter 11 Dressage Girl (Milliner's) Hawick, Roxburghshire
Ella Jane Russell Daughter 9 Scholar Hawick, Roxburghshire
Charles John Russell Son 7 Scholar Hawick, Roxburghshir
Annie Kerr Lodger 26 Milliner Ayr, Ayrshire
James Berrie Lodger 20 Sorters Clerk and Telegraphist St Andrews, Fife

For the 1911 census Elizabeth was again recorded living in Hawick. All her children were included in the household with the exception of Ella Jane who I believe was resident in a household in Castleton, Roxburghshire. I have not viewed the original so the names and ages are from the Scotlandspeople index with the inclusion of some assumptions (in italics) using details from the previous census. The original would incude exact address, occupations, etc.

1911 Census (2 April) Hawick - 789/10 Page 8





Duration of


No of

Children Born

No of Children



Where Born

Elizabeth Russel Head - Widow 49         Jedburgh, Roxburghshire
James Russel Son 25       Watchmaker \ Jeweller USA
Alexander Russel Son 24       Hosiery Warehouseman USA
Lizzie Russel Daughter 21         Hawick, Roxburghshire
Charles Russel Son 17         Hawick, Roxburghshire

Elizabeth died on 18 Dec 1929 in 3 Albion Place, Hawick. She was identified as "Widow of James Russell, Stone Mason" and her parents were recorded on the certificate as Alexander Grieve, a wool sorter, and Elizabeth Young Grieve, maiden name Rutherford. The informant was her son James Alexander Russell, who gave his address as 3 Albion Place, Hawick.

Alexander Grieve born on 27 Aug 1868, 2 O'Connel St., Hawick (Mother’s name - Elizabeth Young)

Recorded with his mother for the census 1871-1911. Alexander, an actuary, died unmarried on 5 Apr 1926 in 11 High Street, Hawick. On the certificate his parents were identified as Alexander Grieve, a woolsorter, and Elizabeth Grieve, maiden name Young, and the informant was James Russell, his nephew, son of his sister Elizabeth (see preceding). James gave his address as 6 Rosevale Street, Hawick.